Judd, Jury and Executioner
By Joe Lozito and Lexi Feinberg
Lexi: I may not believe too heavily in higher powers, but I do believe in the sugar-and-spice comedy genius of Judd Apatow. The guy has nailed the perfect formula: adding a throbbing heart to base, raunchy humor. He has written/directed two of the greatest comedies of the past two years: "
The 40 Year Old Virgin" and "Knocked Up." Not to mention his hand in one of the best, albeit short-lived, coming-of-age shows of all time, "Freaks and Geeks."
Joe: OK, first of all, as you well know, I haven't seen "Freaks and Geeks" but, from what everyone and their cousin tells me, I'm sure I'd love it. That notwithstanding, I have seen Mr. Apatow's complete film canon, including the not-so-fun "
Fun with Dick and Jane," for which he served as co-writer.
Now look, I love a good comedy. I love to laugh. Heck, I have a "Simpsons" poster on my wall as I type this. And, yes, Apatow's movies are funny ("The 40 Year Old Virgin," in particular). What I have a problem with is that he's being heralded as some kind of second coming of the comedy gods. His movies are funny, yes, but they're very obvious. And his rauchy humor is as telegraphed as his warmer stuff. He likes to have it both ways, he wants to get a Farrelly Brothers vibe, but for the Family Values demographic.
Further, I'd be surprised if his films have the staying power of a more transcendent comedies like "
Little Miss Sunshine," "
Sideways," or anything by Charlie Kaufman.
Lexi: You've seen all of "Fun with Dick and Jane" and none of "Freaks and Geeks?" I'm crying a little bit on the inside. OK, I'm done.
I can see why you think he is overhyped and overloved—especially since I am likely one of the frontrunners feeding into the frenzy. But I really think he is worthy of every crumb of adoration tossed his way. "Knocked Up" and "
Superbad" (in which he just serves as producer, but still, his vibe is everywhere) literally made the summer worthwhile. And just look at the competition: "
Evan Almighty," "License To Wed," "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry." It's no wonder that people act like they've spotted the Virgin Mary in a slice of toast every time he releases a movie.
You say he wants to have it both ways, the Farrelly Brothers' raunch and the Family Values demographic, but I ask: Why can't he?
Joe: See, I can't agree with you on the "Knocked Up"/"Superbad" combo. Especially the latter. I know you liked it, but in my opinion "Superbad" didn't live up to its trailer. I'll watch anything Michael Cera does (now *he's* the second coming. Of what, I don't know), but there were about twenty minutes of solid comedy in "Superbad." The rest - especially the two policemen - was just dull.
And yes, Apatow can peddle his raunch with a side order of family values, but it feels disingenuous to me and therefore a cheat. In essence, that's why I feel like these comedies won't become classics.
Lexi: I am a big fan of both. I never feel compelled to see flicks twice in theaters (after all, they'll be on DVD before you can say "audio commentary") and yet, I saw both of these twice within the first month they came out. They somehow become funnier on multiple viewings, after you've played things over in your head enough times, and my desire to revisit the experience could not be contained.
And that is why I think his films, especially "40 Year Old Virgin," will indeed hold up and be looked at fondly as the comedy classics they are.
Let's meet back here 15 years from now and see who's right. I'll even cough up the money to buy the cheese doodles and cherry soda. Deal?
Joe: OK, it's a deal, but I'm going to need something a lot stronger than cherry soda.